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Ren Höek and Stimpson J. "Stimpy" Cat, created by John Kricfalusi, are the title characters in the Nickelodeon animated series The Ren & Stimpy Show, and its 2003 reboot "Ren & Stimpy "Adult Party Cartoon".
Kricfalusi created the characters during his stay at Sheridan College and they first appeared on film in the pilot episode "Big House Blues". Ren is a scrawny, emotionally unstable and sociopathic ”Asthma Hound” Chihuahua, and his best friend Stimpy, in contrast, is a dim-witted, good-natured Manx cat.
The show portrays their wacky, bizarre, and often surreal adventures. Although they're awesome in the original show, they're the exact opposite in the Adult Party Cartoon. And we mean, the exact opposite of awesome.
Why They Were Both EEDIOTS
NOTE: This only focuses on the Adult Party Cartoon version of Ren and Stimpy, since the original Ren and Stimpy are likable.
- The main problem is that both of them have been severely flanderized beyond recognition into mindless perverts with barely any redeeming qualities, so much to the point that they mostly feel like fan-made parodies of their original selves (like Shnookums and Meat, and NOT in a good way), due to the various reasons as listed below.
- To be fair, executives Albie Hecht and Kevin Kay pressured John Kricfalusi to make them as crude as possible.
- Everything they do is obnoxiously over-the-top, very childish & undignified, rude, and unnecessarily repulsive most of the time. They're both equally just as immature, idiotic and gross as well.
- All their cartoon gags went from funny and entertaining in the original show to flat, stale, unfunny, crude, rude, lewd, disgusting and tasteless in Adult Party Cartoon.
- Their character designs can look pretty ugly many times, mainly due to John K. preferring off-model designs constantly rather than staying on-model half of the time.
- Both of them had destroyed most of the reputation that their original characters in the original show had, and succeeded in turning these versions of them (especially Ren) into some of the most universally hated characters of all time. In other words, they both give the original Ren Höek and Stimpy bad names.
- FIRST AND FOREMOST, like the show itself, recasting an iconic cartoon character who was originally portrayed in protagonist and/or anti-heroic roles with sympathetic qualities as a flat-out evil villain with zero sympathetic and redeeming traits is an extremely abysmal idea that was bad from the start, which is why it upset and angered so many fans of Ren & Stimpy and Ren's character in general, since Ren prior to his villainous Flanderization in Ren & Stimpy "Adult Party Cartoon" has been a fan favourite and audiences have been rooting for him for many years, only for him to end up losing all of his charm, likeability, and sympathetic qualities to the point that he becomes a loathsome villain. Hence, the insults hit the fanbase very hard. He also suffered the ABSOLUTE WORST from flanderization and the worst character derailment.
- Most importantly, the idea of Ren being the antagonist took a step too far for Ren in a more mean-spirited and violent direction in this adult-oriented spin-off.
- He's a complete monster and an irredeemable psychopath who tormented animals and bugs in his childhood to inflict pain on others, and loves to make others suffer. Heck, he would even make both Eric Cartman and Peter Griffin look innocent by comparison.
- Yes, he was an antipathic psychopath in the original show, but he was never a complete monster like his portrayal in Adult Party Cartoon.
- His actions always come off as abusive and sadistic rather than funny.
- HE KILLED MR. HORSE AFTER BEING CALLED CRAZY, BEFORE BITING A MAN'S HAND AND GOING COMPLETELY INSANE!.
- On top of being a sadomasochist, he acted like a mindless pervert towards various women in the episode "Naked Beach Frenzy". This is bestiality because Ren is a chihuahua.
- On the topic of perversion and erotic behavior, he even mistreats Stimpy violently and even sexually at times. As seen in "Altruists", there was an infamously controversial scene where Ren practically had sexual intercourse with Stimpy when he used a wood saw attached to his very crotch to saw a log that was placed on Stimpy's buttocks and the latter begged him to rub the saw in between his buttocks. This is so disgusting to watch; it reaches the point of "eye-bleach" territory.
- He beats up his best friend Stimpy constantly, unlike in the original show, where it was kind of the opposite.
- He even acts way angrier, more violent, and short-tempered than before, especially towards Stimpy, to the point that it becomes very mean-spirited, exaggerated, and unfunny.
- Ren may have been angry, short-tempered, and psychopathic in the original series, but not to this extent.
- Because of all these reasons, his character was one of the biggest problems with the Adult Party Cartoon, which was a show that already contained many problems.
- He doesn't get punished for all the crap that he does. In fact, he never gets his comeuppance for any of the over-the-top mean-spirited actions that he had done over the years (besides "Ren Seeks Help"), like getting put in jail, meaning that he is a giant Karma Houdini.
- Gross-Out Behavior: He and Stimpy are the constant causes of making stomach-wrenching scenes. One of these examples includes eating body fluids and living inside a drunk person's mouth while not seeming to care that much about it.
- Overall, his character basically represents the abusive and perverted side of his creator, John Kricfalusi, and some fans even go as far as to call him not only the worst character of the Ren and Stimpy franchise, but also one of the worst characters of all time.
- FIRST AND FOREMOST, like the show itself, recasting an iconic cartoon character who was originally portrayed as a protagonist who was ditzy, dumb, happy-go-lucky, and a goofball, all in a good way. Having Stimpy portrayed as a stereotypically homophobic character for no real reason who's extremely stupid, pointless and has no purpose whatsoever is a very bad idea. Which was why it upset and angered so many fans of Ren and Stimpy and the Stimpy character in general (though the Stimpy fans aren’t as angry as Ren fans were), since the Stimpy character prior to his Flanderization in Ren & Stimpy "Adult Party Cartoon" has been a fan favorite and audiences have been rooting for him for many years, only for him to end up losing almost all of his charm and likability, to the point that he becomes widely hated once he gets turned into a pointless character, hence it insults the fanbase very hard.
- For the fact that he’s a stereotypically homophobic character (despite showing feminine traits over Ren), meaning he has some vague form of hatred and/or prejudice towards Ren and other gay people for no real reason (though some of his hatred towards Ren is understandable, given the monster that Ren is, that doesn’t excuse him for hating other gay people). This makes him extremely hypocritical since he acts very homosexual as well.
- As mentioned again, he hates the gay community so much to the point where he would make Junko Enoshima, Rouge the Bat's Sonic X incarnation, Wallet from Object Terror and even Jeffy from SuperMarioLogan look innocent.
- He is a total doormat that Ren mistreats constantly and Stimpy just lets Ren walk all over him for no reason, making him a complete Butt-Monkey. This is unlike in the original show, where it was kind of the opposite as there are multiple instances where Stimpy would stand up to himself when Ren goes way too far. Here, with the notable exception of the very start of the episode, Ren Seeks Help (see WHS #10), he hardly ever does that.
- On top of that, after he seems to be okay after the torture he received, there were times when he can come off as somewhat masochistic and overly passive despite being a brainlessly submissive pushover. Where Ren and most characters would express displeasure and discomfort about being tormented or attacked, Stimpy after Ren Seeks Help, for the most part, seems to enjoy and take a form of pleasure from all of the miserable, uncomfortable, and unpleasant situations that happen to him. Even when Ren makes Stimpy his essential slave for example and he wholeheartedly shows dedication and joy with being a masochist, as seen in episodes like "Stimpy's Pregnant" for example.
- He’s extremely stupid to the point it’s not even funny, very similar to Seasons 6-9a of Patrick Star. Sure he was stupid and a comically childish moron in the original series, but he was never a complete idiot like his portrayal in this spin-off. His stupidity used to be charming, but now his stupidity is incredibly irritating and frustrating to watch.
- Stimpy's first attempt to smoke a cigarette is very unpleasant, unfunny, and extremely cringe-worthy to watch.
- He’s also pretty pointless and has no purpose for the show whatsoever. You could replace Stimpy with someone else and nothing would really change.
- While not as big as Ren’s, his character was one of the biggest problems with the Adult Party Cartoon, which was a show that already contained many problems.
- Gross-Out Behavior: He and Ren are the constant causes of making stomach-wrenching scenes, one of these examples includes eating body fluids and living inside a drunk person's mouth while not seeming to care that much about it.
- He, alongside Ren, went from being actually funny to being extremely unfunny, gross, vulgar, disturbing, perverted, and disgusting, even for his intended adult audience.
- He can be considered to be an erotic pervert as well. He has partaken in Ren's awkwardly perverted antics towards sexualized women and he even allows Ren to mistreat him violently and even sexually at times. As seen in Altruists, there was an infamously controversial scene where he begged Ren to practically have sexual intercourse with him when Ren used a wood saw attached to his very crotch to saw a log that was placed on Stimpy's buttocks, which got Stimpy turned on somehow. This is extremely disgusting to watch, it reaches the point of "eye-bleach" territory.
- We even get to see Stimpy in a pair of small thong panties in Naked Beach Frenzy, which is incredibly cringe-worthy.
- During the "Ask Dr. Stupid" segment in Onward and Upward, he feels tasteless and was shoehorned in order to get a cheap laugh and make viewers think that they're watching the original Ren & Stimpy.
- Stimpy's crying is ear-piercing, although we do feel bad for him after Ren argued with him and for how the latter treats Stimpy.
- He was the conflict in Stimpy’s Pregnant, as everyone thought he was pregnant, but in reality, he was constipated. Which is both annoying and disgusting.
- Speaking of Stimpy’s Pregnant, for no particular reason, he changes his gender from male to female (complete with breasts) upon realizing that he's "pregnant". Not only is it cringeworthy to watch, but it also makes absolutely zero sense, even by Ren & Stimpy standards, as cats are incapable to change their gender on a whim.
- On that topic and WHWAE #5, in both the episodes Altruists and Stimpy’s Pregnant, due to the fact that Stimpy is somehow shown to be able to reproduce like a female despite being male (which again, as mentioned before in WHS #11, makes absolutely zero sense, even by Ren & Stimpy standards), this unambiguously gives out the unfortunate implication that Stimpy himself is a transgender in this show, a stark contrast to the original show where Stimpy is confirmed to be fully male just like Ren, which can be offensive and insensitive to transgender people and their identity struggles in real life.
- In the episode Altruists, when Stimpy pretends to be a female duck, a duck has sex with him, and he, for some reason, gives birth to three duck and cat hybrids which look incredibly ugly, which makes no sense even by Ren & Stimpy standards because not only that cat and duck DNA are too different to make hybrids possible, and besides it is impossible to automatically change gender to the opposite sex from cross-dressing.
- They have had their moments of being a little entertaining, though not as much as in the original show.
- Both of them were much better, funnier and more tolerable characters in the original Nickelodeon series and have massively redeemed themselves in the Nicktoons: Attack of the Toybots, Nicktoons MLB and Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl video games.
- He tells us in an informative and decent way on how he met Stimpy in "Ren Seeks Help".
- John Kricfalusi still did a good job voicing him since he is the one that voiced that character before.
- "YOU EEEDIOT!"
- He actually got his comeuppance in "Ren Seeks Help" where Animal Patrol took him to prison for killing Mr. Horse.
- He isn’t as infamous or as badly flanderized as Ren is.
- Depending on your view, he is a bit likable and is the most tolerable of the main duo.
- Eric Bauza's performance as Stimpy was good (when he's not crying, at least) and sounded pretty close to his old voice actor, Billy West.
- Some nice quotes and one-liners because of Eric Bauza's good performance:
- "SHAMPOO MASTER!!!"
- "A stooge question, RRRRenwick."
- "Dr Stupid! Who else??"
- While John Kricfalusi reprised his role as Ren Höek in "Ren & Stimpy "Adult Party Cartoon for the first time since the original Ren & Stimpy's first two seasons, however Billy West declined to reprise his role as Stimpy in said show, claiming that Adult Party Cartoon was "not funny" and doing so would damage his career, hence Eric Bauza instead replaced West as the voice of Stimpy in Adult Party Cartoon.
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