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    Norman Price (seasons 6-present)

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    "FAIRY GODPARENTS!"Denzel Crocker
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    Norman Price
    Gender: Male
    Type: The Dark Side of Norman Price
    Age: 7
    Species: Human
    Portrayed by: Steve Kynman (UK)
    Carter Treneer (US, seasons 6-10, specials 1-3)
    Mark Ricci (US, Season 11-present, Special 4-present)
    Status: Alive
    Media of origin: Fireman Sam

    "Okay, there's a difference between being mischievous and being... a dick. A whiny, stupid, careless, little dick. And with all of the tricks and stuff that he caused in the original series? I can understand most of the stuff that he did back then because it was the beginning of the series and Norman most definitely wouldn't have known about how the fire service needs to stay alert and on duty or that keeping Trevor and Elvis running for so long might hurt them. But by the sixth season, he should already know not to mess around with fire equipment or to waste the fire brigade's time for something that they are not involved with. And all of his original tricks were all harmless things, like a clockwork mouse, or making stink bombs, or painting fake spots on peoples' faces, not locking someone in the changing rooms ON PURPOSE!"

    James A. Williams

    Norman Price is a character from the British children's TV show Fireman Sam. In the first five seasons of the show, he was a 7-year-old boy who often caused mischief and also liked to play harmless tricks and pranks on his friends and even the people in the fire brigade.

    While he was originally a good character in the first five seasons of the show, since season 6, however, he has been massively flanderized and hasn't redeemed himself since he's considered the main antagonist of the show.

    Why He Intentionally Needs to Pay the Price Now

    1. He has gotten flanderized beyond recognition, to the point of his entire character getting derailed and any redemption for him is almost pretty much hopeless at this point. To add to that, he has arguably suffered one of the worst flanderization and derailments in cartoon history. During these seasons, he has gone from a mischievous boy who initially played harmless tricks on his friends and family while still caring about them and their safety to a whiny, loud, and bratty jerk who forcefully tries to get what he wants without thinking of others.
    2. Just like the other characters who were redesigned in season 6, his character redesign is pretty bad and very ugly looking.
      • His design looked even worse in the animation test in 2007 before season 6 was greenlit.
    3. Nearly every episode he appears in involves him doing something stupid or ridiculous which always leads to him getting into trouble. To make matters worse, while he does apologize and promises to never do it again at the end of the episode, he forgets everything he's learned in his next appearance.
    4. Alongside unintentionally doing silly things, he even does some horrible things to others for the pettiest reasons and even commits dangerous and illegal stunts just to prove that he is better than everyone else, such as:
      • Using a set of matches to make a paper dragon look like a "fire-breathing dragon", not knowing that he set it on fire, and caused it to roll down a hill and set Bessie's shed on fire in "Castles and Kings".
      • Tying James to a chair and making him set a real fire to get out, for a movie he was making, in a room covered with flammable liquids, which is considerably dangerous in "Spy Games".
      • Purposefully trapping James in a swimming pool changing room by gluing the door shut, just so he could be the star of a synchronized swimming show in "Froggy Fantasy".
      • Stealing Joe Sparkes' rescue submarine and crashing it at the bottom of the lake, just to try to film some monster that probably wasn't even real in "Monster Mania".
      • Driving off to Jupiter just because he thought he's a know-it-all expert about being a firefighter from playing a video game in "Jupiter on the Loose".
      • Disobeying his mother's warning and constantly ringing the doorbell to different houses in Pontypandy multiple times to get every single piece of candy to the point where the other children couldn't get any and had to get some in Dilys' shop in "Norman's Halloween Heist".
      • Stealing the batteries from the Floods' smoke alarm to use for his boom box in a magic show in "Magic Norman".
      • Going sailing with Dilys without Penny's permission, causing him to lose one of the oars and therefore stranding himself and his mother out at sea in "Blow Me Down".
      • Forcefully taking control of the spotlight for a musical, causing him to fight with James over it and to knock it over, break it and cause a fire in "Blast From the Past".
      • Convincing James to watch a rescue demonstration from the fire station's pitched roof in "Open Day".
      • Attempting to get James' plane down from a tree with unstable piles of logs, resulting in them both stuck in a tree in "Model Plane".
      • Stealing his mum's scarf to use for a snowman, and then ruining it by getting coal on it, freezing it when trying to wash it, and then setting it on fire in the oven in "The Big Chill".
      • Trying to manipulate Mandy to set off a flare they found, which backfired as she gave it to Penny, who was stuck on the cliffs in "Fireworks for Mandy".
      • Trapping Mandy in her room because he thought she was a "Pondy" when in reality she was just sick and then setting fire to the laundry basket with a flare in "Night of the Norman".
      • Trying to play with his football inside his mother's shop, all because it was "too windy" outside in "Cry Wolf".
        • In addition, when his mother took it away, he deliberately set off the fire alarm just so he could get it back, refusing to own up to it.
      • Along with his cousin, using fire beaters as oars to go rowing alone and losing them in the river when a grassland fire occurs in "Shape Up and Shine".
      • Detaching the trailer from Mike's van all because he wanted the best billboard for a talent show, causing it to roll backwards down a hill, set a billboard on fire, head for the quay and set a fuel truck on fire in "Great Billboard of Fire".
      • Released a sky lantern when he wasn't supposed to and caused a forest fire in "Sky Lanterns".
      • Getting himself, Dilys, Mandy, Helen, Mike, and Moose locked out at the lighthouse balcony, just to get out of washing Mike's van in "Lighthouse Lock Out".
      • Stealing sausages from his mother's store when he wasn't supposed to so that he could cook them on a scout camping trip, ignoring the warnings about not making campfires, but failing to put it out, which leads to an even bigger forest fire that nearly brings the end of Pontypandy and almost forces the entirety of the town to leave and let their town burn in the unbeatable fire in "The Great Fire of Pontypandy". Had it not been for the lack of rain, that would have actually happened. In real life, if a child did this (along with his other actions), they'd probably be in juvenile hall for a few days or weeks or even better to be put into prison without parole until he is released when he is 21. He's also a worst example of being a generic doomsday villain.
    5. Because of all of the terrible stuff he does, he ends up causing the emergencies in most of the episodes he is in.
      • While in the earlier seasons, he would occasionally do things that would lead to an emergency, in these seasons he does this on a regular basis. But even then, some of his accidents in the earlier seasons were done out of less carelessness, like falling down a well because he was trying to get away from a swarm of bees in "Norman's Pitfall" or having the window getting accidentally stuck on him in "Trevor's Training".
    6. He often gets way too much screen time in these seasons, thus becoming the creator's pet to the point where it's like almost every episode has to involve him, whether he has a major or minor role. It's like the writers have a new motto: "When in doubt, shove Norman into the scene."
    7. The biggest problem with Norman being unbearable to watch in his screen time, at least in the British dub, in general, is his voice. No words, phrases, or even actions can describe how horrible and loud Norman Price's voice sounds in these seasons (in the British version, the American version is fine). The dubbing given to him by Steve Kynman was: horrible and unbearable for the ears. If you are American and hear Norman's voice from the United Kingdom, you can be sure that you will feel sorry for those who live in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland because of how loud Norman's voice sounds.
    8. Even when he isn't causing any emergencies, he still acts like a jerk to others around him.
      • One example of him being cruel is the episode "Going Out with a Bang". In that episode, Sarah and James are both scared because they don't know if their cat Lion is okay, Norman then says that maybe the cat is hiding in Mike's shed, which is him implying that Lion is burning in the flames of the garage, which is a beyond cruel and traumatic thing to say to a person.
    9. Whenever he causes an emergency, he never learns his lesson or gets properly disciplined like in the first five seasons. He just gets a warning from the fire brigade that he immediately forgets in his next appearance and nothing else, making him completely one-dimensional in these seasons.
      • He also never gets arrested by the new police officers from season 12-onward and "Norman Price and the Mystery in the Sky", PC Malcolm Williams and Sergeant Rose Ravani, respectively, as they also let him off with a warning just like how Sam and his team usually do in the CGI series.
      • As a matter of fact, he hasn't gotten any redemption or character development as his personality has remained the same since season 6, except for the fact that he is in season 13 a little better behaved than in seasons 6-12, but even then, it's too late.
    10. His fondness for chemicals is completely thrown out the window, as shown in "Battle of The Birthdays". There, he doesn't showcase any of the facts he had learned from the studies he took prior but takes it as an interest that looks new to him.
    11. He's also a pathetic punching bag that not only causes emergencies but even some emergencies to the point of how he nearly gets himself killed. However, considering how rude and unsympathetic to others he tends to be, it's very difficult to say that he doesn't deserve it.
    12. Since he barely gets punished for his actions (usually getting only a quick warning or reprimanding) he can be considered a karma houdini. Not helping is that he's a pretty bad role model for children, teaching them that you can do bad things to others and get away with it.
    13. Because of all the reasons stated above, most of Norman's reputation was permanently destroyed to the point where many now consider him the worst character in the franchise.
    14. He's even sexist towards Sarah and Mandy:
      • In Pirates of Pontypandy, He tells Sarah that she can't be a captain since she's a girl.
      • In The Best Sleepover Ever, He thinks that pajamas are for girls and call Sarah and Mandy a baby because they wear pajamas.

    Redeeming Qualities

    1. Despite his flanderization, there are still some episodes where he is likable, has his original personality, and is even heroic, like "Alien Alert", where he exposes Buck Douglas' scheme and in "Norman's Ark", where he tries to save Woolly and her lamb during a flood, which was a very selfless thing for him to do and is arguably the episode where he is the most likable and has his original personality.
      • He, along with the other flanderized characters, are slightly reverting to their original personality as of season 13.
      • He still has a lot of funny moments, as to be expected from Norman Price.
    2. In some episodes, he doesn't appear, still innocent, obedient, or doesn't cause emergencies such as:
      1. He didn't cause the gas canister explosion and forest fire, which Sarah and Mandy caused after disobeying Ellie in "Cadet Catastrophe".
      2. While he did get himself stuck in some wet cement, he didn't set Dilys' iron on fire in "Off Duty Sam".
    3. Deep down, Norman still does care about others around him.
    4. Despite his United Kingdom voice actor not doing a good job at voicing him, at least his United States voice actors, Carter Treneer (United States, seasons 6-10, specials 1-3), and Mark Ricci (United States, seasons 11-current, specials 4-current) do decent-to-good jobs voicing him and they sound better at trying to mimic the voice of a 7-year-old boy.
      • As a matter of fact, his first United States voice actor, Carter Treneer, actually had a fitting voice for him as he was a child-teenager back when he voiced him.
      • His voice in the United Kingdom is so bad and annoying that it's unintentionally hilarious.
    5. Though it's much rarer now, he can still get his comeuppance for his actions at times, such as:
      • In "Cry Wolf", where he gets grounded by his mom after pulling the fire alarm twice.
      • In "Floating Kart", where he tries to apologize for what he did, but then Sam comes to the conclusion that the apology is not good enough, so he forces him to do chores by making him help Mike Flood with fixing his truck.
      • In "Froggy Fantasy," where he gets punished for purposely locking James in the swimming pool changing room by getting kicked out of the club and being forced to do fire lessons with Penny.
      • In "The Big Chill", where he is forced to clean the sidewalk after setting fire to his mom's scarf.
      • In "Sky Lanterns", where he gets punished for releasing a sky lantern despite being told not to and causing a forest fire by not releasing a sky lantern with everyone else and gets more karma by Elvis accidentally putting sticky foam on him.
      • In "Lighthouse Lock Out", where he gets punished for getting everyone (including himself) locked out at the lighthouse balcony by cleaning Mike's van, and two of the fire station vehicles, Jupiter and Venus; inside and out.
      • In the movie "The Great Fire of Pontypandy" as punishment for nearly bringing the end of Pontypandy, he doesn't get his scout badge, despite not being a great punishment as mentioned above in WHNTGGAPTPN (NPI)#5.
      • He is chased by Dily after stealing her hat in "Castles and Kings".
    6. At least he apologizes and shows regret for the things he has done, even if the damage that he did in the episode had already been done.
    7. He clearly should be hated in these seasons, as the writers decided to make him a villainous antagonist.
    8. He was a much better character in the first five seasons before this flanderization.


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