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    Kylo Ren
    "You need a teacher! I'll show you the ways of the Force!"
    Gender: Male
    Type: Bootlegged "successor" of Darth Vader
    Age: 29 (The Force Awakens & The Last Jedi)
    30 (The Rise of Skywalker)
    Species: Human
    Portrayed by: Adam Driver
    Status: Deceased
    Media of origin: Star Wars

    Kylo Ren (born 5 ABY on Chandrila; died 35 ABY on Exegol) is a major antagonist in the Star Wars sequel trilogy. His real name is Ben Solo, son of Han Solo and Leia Organa, nephew of Luke Skywalker, grandson of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader and Padme Amidala Naberrie, and great-grandson of Shmi Skywalker. He is also somehow the leader of the Knights of Ren.


    • Shmi Skywalker-Lars (maternal great-grandmother)
    • Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader (maternal grandfather)
    • Owen Lars (maternal great-uncle)
    • Beru Whitesun Lars (maternal great-aunt)
    • Padme Amidala Naberrie Skywalker (maternal grandmother)
    • Jobal Naberrie (maternal great-grandmother)
    • Ruwee Naberrie (maternal great-grandfather)
    • Bail Organa (maternal adopted grandfather)
    • Breha Organa (maternal adopted grandmother)
    • Luke Skywalker (maternal uncle)
    • Leia Skywalker Organa Solo (mother)
    • Han Solo (father)
    • Rey Palpatine/Skywalker (honorary adopted cousin)

    "You Need A Teacher!" Qualities

    1. He's a bad ripoff of Jacen Solo in the Legends timeline, that was created to jab at Darth Vader fanboys.
    2. He is just an whiny, edgy, brooding petulant child that only shows surface-level conflict. He is prone to tantrums that make him way less threatening than any other villain. The only villain who is a bigger joke than him is Hux.
      • There is no sound reason why he became a villain. Sure, he saw Luke thinking of killing him or even Emperor Palpatine manipulating him into leading the First Order, it doesn't explain why he turned on anyone else.
    3. The removal of his mask was premature and underwhelming. And Ben Solo looks goofy without it. It's made worse in that he actually destroys his mask in Last Jedi. It is also the moment he lost his intimidation and scariness making him a grumpy emo kid.
    4. He is inconsistently portrayed. He is so powerful and disciplined to stop the movement of a blaster bolt in mid-air for some time without any apparent effort and could fight Luke Skywalker in a duel, while on the other hand he is shown as unstable, undisciplined and able to be overpowered by Rey, a girl who was unaware that the Jedi and the Force were real until earlier that day.
    5. His name makes little sense, as Obi-Wan isn't as close to Han and Leia as Luke is, although it is possible that Luke suggested naming him Ben.
      • It is later explained in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series (which came out 7 years after Force Awakens) why Leia named her son after Obi-Wan.
    6. His relationship with Rey and the whole "there's still good in him" felt forced and is basically a rehash of Luke's redemption of Anakin.

    Good Qualities That Don't Need A Teacher

    1. He was actually slightly better character in The Force Awakens.
      • He is actually more tolerable than any villain in the sequel trilogy.
    2. Adam Driver does do a good job with the material he's given.
    3. His stopping a blast bolt is mid air is pretty awesome and shows how powerful he is.
    4. Both his helmet as well as unstable and crossguard-style lightsaber is pretty cool.
      • He at least got his trademark mask back during The Rise of Skywalker.
    5. His conflicted persona is quite understandable, as his outward appearance suggests he's just trying to play the part of Vader, but inside he's his father, his mother, and his uncle, making up a balance of Light and Dark. It is highly implied that throughout his life people wanted him to be evil and he was subject to bullying by his fellow Jedi.
      • Seeing him fight the Elite Praetorian Guards and the Knights of Ren shows how skill he is and defines his Skywalker/Solo heritage.


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