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    Captain America (Ultimate Marvel)

    Captain America
    Captain America (Ultimate Marvel).png
    "Surrender? SURRENDER??!! You think this letter on my head stands for France?"
    Gender: Male
    Type: The Dark Side of Steve Rogers
    Age: 30s
    Species: Human
    Status: Alive
    Media of origin: The Ultimates


    Captain America is a fictional superhero appearing in publications by Marvel Comics. He is created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Named Steve Rogers, he is a super-soldier experimented upon during the Second World War that granted him peak human abilities, and of whom he wields an indestructible vibranium steel shield. He is a prominent member of the Avengers and fought numerous foes with them countless times.

    While he is an iconic character for his great portrayal of freedom and righteousness, the same cannot be said for his Ultimate Comics counterpart.

    This article will only focus on his Ultimate Comics incarnation.

    "France" Qualities

    1. First of all, this Cap was flanderized from being a person that represents freedom, hope, and a soldier with a good heart into a jerkish, racist, self-righteous and xenophobic prick who is nothing like the original Cap we all know and love.
    2. Cap's portrayal in The Ultimates 12-part comic series strays far from the original's portrayal as he is based on President George Bush's American self-image, which is already a bad start.
    3. Speaking of Bush, at the end of the third issue, he salutes President Bush at a press conference, which is controversial because Captain America is supposed to be an image of freedom and pure heart and directly supporting a controversial figure who thinks war is necessary to defend democracy is already a bad idea.
    4. As mentioned in FQ#1, he is a racist, xenophobic jerk who does things that the original would not even think of doing.
      • He doesn't hesitate to kill people, while the original would only kill if it was necessary, but even then, he wouldn't kill.
      • He makes homophobic, racist, misogynistic remarks such as saying "parachutes are for girls" and motivates Hulk to kill the bad guys (either criminals, corrupt yet traitorous individuals, terrorists or villains) by saying they called the latter "a sissy-boy".
      • One time, after he finds his apartment vandalized by young kids, instead of talking to them about the situation, he beats them up instead. Yeah, and if you thought this was bad, then you haven't seen anything yet.
      • The infamous moment where his universe’s arch-nemesis, Herr Kleiser (instead of Red Skull, who is not like his 616 counterpart, see below) tells Cap to surrender before he can use his shield to kill him and the latter replies with, "Surrender? SURRENDER??!! You think this letter on my head stands for France?”, Not only is this disrespectful to France as the line was supposed to directly mention their early surrender to the Nazis in World War II, but it is very unnecessary.
      • He also beats up Nick Fury for all of his troubles he caused for the Ultimates in the Death of Spider-Man event and still distrusts him since it happened in Ultimate Power.
    5. Unlike his mainstream counterpart, he is in fact the sole reason why his own son (revealed to become a non-Nazi version of Red Skull) felt abandoned and unstable from the super soldier serum (which led him to kill lots of people for “fun”) while plotting to go back in time to ensure his father will be on his side along with his mother (which meant that Cap will never have join the Ultimates).
    6. He has no qualms of being cautious like when the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver (Magneto’s children) being a loving couple since they are supposed to be siblings (which said siblings cannot be in love at all) or wanting to let Magneto live after the reveal that Nick Fury told about his species during Ultimatum, which Magneto flooded the entire world as vengeance for his children’s deaths.
    7. Judging that his mainstream counterpart was the first Marvel character since Marvel Comics was created, Spider-Man (who has debut as the first of the Ultimate Marvel imprint) should have not been the first Ultimate Universe character in the first place depends on that view, that way it would try to be a fresh start for new readers who have no known this character for many years.
    8. His death in Cataclysm: The Ultimates’ Last Stand feels generic and is just killed from an explosion.
    9. He disliked Spider-Man and didn't hesitate one second to insult him, although he gains respect for the web-slinger when the latter saves him from an assassination attempt by the Punisher on him by taking the bullet that almost hit Cap in The Death Of Spider-Man.

    "Cool, Definitely Cool" Qualities

    1. He still has some cool moments like in Ultimatum where he teams up with Thor to fight Hela’s army of skeletons.
    2. He intentionally did a good thing where he beats up Hank Pym (who is Giant-Man in the Ultimate Comics) for being abusive towards his own wife Janet/Wasp, although the latter detested him for it.
    3. The Ultimate Avengers animated movie duology, which was based on The Ultimates 12-issue series, toned the character down and removed certain parts from it to focused more on the Chitauri (who are the primary villains of that comic, instead of the Hulk rampaging to find Betty and then facing them).
    4. He has expressed remorse like when he confronted Spider-Man’s Aunt May, whom thought that Peter could have become like him when he dies fighting the monstrous Green Goblin.
    5. He had some influence on his MCU counterpart along with the Ultimates in general.

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