Mean popular girl/boy

Mean popular girls and mean popular boys are two terrible similar character tropes, so both will be discussed in this page with reasons explaining why they are bad on their own and other information. = Mean popular girl = The mean popular girl (also known as the "alpha bitch" or "Queen Bee") is a stock character in most TV shows or movies or video games that usually take place in a high school setting. They're often portrayed as a teenage girl who is popular among the school but is often mean and prissy to less popular girls, mostly towards the main female protagonist. She is usually very attractive and often has sidekicks following her everywhere.

Male variants of that cliché also exist too where they're called the mean popular boy (also known as the "alpha bastard"). Check below for more info.

Tsundere characters are also part of the range from the cold "silent treatment" to the hotheaded "kindergartener who pushes you into the sandbox." The reasons behind a tsundere's behavior vary widely, but usually boil down to the conflict between their feelings of affection towards a love interest, and their reaction to having those feelings. Though in most examples the reason has something to do with a Madonna-Whore Complex or at least a fear of Slut-Shaming. Truth in Television for many teenage girls: as they both try too hard to be attractive and also try to look like they aren't trying. In an adult though, this type of behavior is generally seen as distastefully immature. The tsun ツン in the Japanese word tsundere ツンデレ comes from the word tsuntsun つんつん, which is a mimetic word for "irritable" or "grumpy," meaning someone is tsuntsun when they become hard to approach and to talk with.

Basically, when you're tsuntsun you just refuse to hear what others have to say. You'll go "hmph!" and turn away. The idea of tsundere characters is that they go "hmph!" and turn away, but eventually they turn back.

People can be tsuntsun just for a while, one isn't necessarily always tsuntsun. It's like being happy or sad. Also, being tsuntsun is completely different from being tsundere. Someone who is tsuntsun is just grumpy, tsuntsun has nothing to do with romance cliches.

That means tsundere ツンデレ is actually short for tsuntsun deredere as two abbreviations in one.

The term was originally used to describe characters who began with a harsh outgoing personality, but slowly revealed a soft and vulnerable interior over time, which made this a plot trope as much as it is a character trope. Over the years the character archetype has become flanderized, and is now generically associated with a character who flips between the two emotional states at the slightest provocation, and usually at a specific person rather than a general sociability problem. The former is usually referred as Classic Tsundere and the latter as Modern Tsundere. A Tsundere, especially a classic one, is usually a Tomboy with a Girly Streak.

The tsuntsun can range from the cold "silent treatment" to the hotheaded "kindergartner who pushes you into the sandbox." The reasons behind a tsundere's behavior vary widely, but usually boil down to the conflict between their feelings of affection towards a love interest, and their reaction to having those feelings.

A himedere also refers to a character who wishes to be treated like a princess by the person she loves, even if she is not actual royalty. This word is an abbreviation of "hime", which means "princess", and "deredere" (デレデレ), which means "lovey-dovey". A himedere can be truly befriended by the few who can see past their ego. Sometimes the himedere takes their companions for granted and chooses to treat them unfairly. Those who tolerate her either let the himedere walk all over them or retaliate eventually, but there is usually a sense of loyalty or a strong bond that is difficult to break.

This type of character is one who has traits of a stereotypical, snooty princess, and comes off at first as arrogant, self-centered, and vain. Still, they have the capacity for love and friendship and often will soften over time, learning a valuable lesson in the process.

Himedere characters are very similar to tsundere characters and have a similar personality. They will both be arrogant and insult their love interest, acting like they're not interested when they actually care about them. The difference between the two is how himedere characters have a princess and superior complex, acting sometimes like a diva and very demanding to other people.

There is also a male version of this dere called oujidere, which is exactly the same but with a prince complex instead. Himedere character's behavior is like a spoiled brat but with a princess complex. The kinder and more mature version of this dere are oujodere characters, who act like a gentle, kind and fair princess and don't demand others to treat them differently if they really are royalty.

Why This Cliché Sucks

 * 1) It’s basically a carbon copy of the Bully cliché, but female.
 * 2) They’re just there to go up to the main protagonist and bully them for the sake of their characters, serving no purpose other than to pad a scene out.
 * 3) They are more annoying and hateful than hilarious.
 * 4) They don't have or show any motive or reason to bully the male or female protagonist, making their vendetta against the main character unjustifiable and unnecessary.
 * 5) What makes their mean-spirited attitude towards the main character more unreasonable is that the main character didn't do anything mean to them. In fact, in some shows like the C-Students pilot and Pixel Pinkie, the main female characters were trying to be nice to them, so that makes the Alpha Bitch's hatred towards the protagonist more pathetic.
 * 6) They usually get absolutely no character development whatsoever.
 * 7) When these so-called "side antagonists" do serve a purpose, they just cause problems and conflict for the protagonist to get the plot going in the direction that the writer wants it to.
 * 8) Some of them are so chatty and talkative that you wish they could shut up.
 * 9) They are pretty much Karma Houdinis, meaning that they get no consequences for actions.
 * 10) They often stand out victorious from humiliating their victim protagonist.
 * 11) Tsundere girls are more aggressive and violent than boys they can beat up really hard is more like bullying than lovable, though they usually try not to bully the protagonist, start to learn rational feelings, and develop love and/or kindness toward them.
 * 12) *Sometimes, some of the Tsunderes can be downright gender-abusers for no real reason such as Asuka mistreating Shinji by kicking him on the table, spilling coffee on his face, therefore Shinji cries help and mentally choked her for that.
 * 13) Himedere girls are extremely spoiled and bratty royal princesses.
 * 14) Jealousy is also part of the horrible cliché (especially girls). For example, when the boy falls in love with another girl, which causes the girl to get extremely toxic to him. And of course, anime girls' jealousy is more dangerous than cartoon girls.
 * 15) In western media, if she's Asian, she's usually Chinese (examples include Tammy from Barbie Dreamhouse Adventures, Penelope from Atomic Betty, Heather from Total Drama, Brittney from Star, Trixie from Fairly OddParents, and Gwen from Mighty B!). This isn't necessarily anti-Chinese propaganda, as many of these shows have Chinese heroes and/or neutral characters, but it's overdone and questionable why that seems to be the default "Asian female bully" nationality.

Redeeming Qualities

 * 1) Some of them are loved by fans and aren't (or at least less) mean-spirited such as Heather, Rose Wilson, Junko Enoshima, Azula, Kazooie, Juri Han, Andrea Davenport, Miu Iruma, Lord Dominator, Elise (Wims) Harris, and Marga M. Bartolome.
 * 2) Most of them do get comeuppance from the characters.
 * 3) Not all of them are mean-spirited to the point of doing physical abuse.
 * 4) Although it's a minority, some of them do undergo character development, such as Amity Blight, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, Regina George, Quinn Fabray, Santana Lopez, Kitty Wilde, Miu Kazashiro, The Dazzlings, Chanel Oberlin, Chanel #3, Chanel #5, Pacifica Northwest, Ronnie Anne Santiago, Wildernessa, Chloé Bourgeois, Penny Peterson, Hiyoko Saionji, Ami Kawashima, Katsuki Bakugo, Mako Sato, Sayuki, Shingo Shoji, Miki, PONY.MOV Applejack and Diana Cavendish, etc.
 * 5) Some of them do have a reason to dislike the main protagonist.
 * 6) Tsundere is a Japanese term for a character development process that depicts a person who is initially cold (and sometimes even hostile) before gradually showing a warmer, friendlier side over time.
 * 7) Himederes demand to be treated like royalty by their loved ones. They can really be princesses or only think that they are in a higher position to others and, consequently, that they should be treated as such and admired by those they think are inferior to them.
 * 8) *The comedy anime will never be great without both tropes.
 * 9) Other bullies and families are also the main reasons for their bullying behavior.

= Mean popular boy =



The term Mean Popular Boys is a stock character portraying male characters as cool, stronger, and often bullies anyone, even the main character, for no good reason, similar to mean popular girls. However, not all boys look like this and there's an opposite version on the different page of him who is smart, kind, and memorable

Why This Cliché Sucks

 * 1) It’s basically a carbon copy of the Bully cliché, and the mean popular girl cliché
 * 2) TBA

Redeeming Qualities

 * 1) TBA

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