Venom (Sam Raimi Trilogy)

Venom is the main antagonist from mh:greatestmovies:Spider-Man 3. It first attached itself to Peter Parker as its host, but after Peter forced itself off of him, it immediately attached to its next host, Eddie Brock. It was portrayed by Topher Grace.

"Trash" Qualities

 * 1) The Sam Raimi Trilogy version of Venom wasn't executed well enough, as he doesn't sound or speak like Venom. He even says "I" instead of "We" (Though there are some incarnations of Venom that don't use "We" either like his first debut comic book appearance).
 * 2) *Even though Sam Raimi didn't know much about the character, Sony (specifically Avi Arad) still demanded Raimi to put him in the film because he was popular and thought the fans would love it. In short, forced executive meddling on the part of Sony had caused Sam Raimi to fail to understand this character properly.
 * 3) *When Eddie speaks with the Venom mask on, it's just him making his voice slightly deeper; there's no alien-like voice for Venom in the movie.
 * 4) Because of Eddie's backstory being hastily put together, due to having two more villains (Sandman and Harry Osborn a.k.a. New Goblin) in the movie causing it to overstuff and Eddie being pushed aside, Venom didn't have any depth when it attached itself to him, though the film just needed to be longer.
 * 5) Venom is basically just Eddie with the symbiote just being a suit for Eddie instead of being two different characters.
 * 6) Venom doesn't look bulky in the movie despite him being a bulky character in the comics. In fact, his design in the movie wouldn't be out of place for a live-action Carnage.
 * 7) He has nothing to do with the greater narrative of the story (in which it was about Spider-Man finding his Uncle Ben's murderer, and Harry Osborn continuing to get revenge on Spider-Man).
 * 8) He was fabricating photos of Spider-Man, just to make him look like a criminal. Peter rightfully exposes him as a fraud and gets him fired plus his motivation is stupid.
 * 9) He kidnaps Mary Jane, manipulates Sandman to helping him kill Spider-Man, and even kills Harry Osborn in front of Spider-Man without remorse.
 * 10) Kind of annoying that it allows Eddie to unmasks himself when he talks to reveal his face, it's understandable if it's done once, but it shouldn't have been more than that.
 * 11) *Whenever Venom speaks in the movie, we barely get to see him speaking with the cool Venom face; most of the time, we just see Eddie's face with fangs (which don't really make him look that intimidating and it would have been cooler to just see the Venom face).
 * 12) Its biggest problem is lack of screen time and proper development.
 * 13) This version of Venom is hated more after Tom Hardy portrays a much better Venom.
 * 14) Topher Grace's casting and performance wasn't well-received by many fans; they said we was miscast as the character.
 * 15) *Speaking of which, Topher Grace's acting career was badly affected after he portrayed Venom in Spider-Man 3.
 * 16) He was one of the reasons why Spider-Man 3 was hated when it was first released.
 * 17) He was much worse in the novel adaptation when he threatens Sandman to work for him in an exchange to spare his Penny's life which is not only did he kidnapped his daughter but also place a death threat on her if he doesn't work with him.

"Venom" Qualities

 * 1) Despite not looking bulky, his design looks accurate to his comic book incarnation, not to mention pretty cool.
 * 2) *He's definitely more detailed compared to the comics because in Spider-Man 3, he has a similar thing with Spider-Man where his suit has a webbing design and the parts that don't have any webs have a certain texture to them. The only differences are that the webbing design on Venom is messier and the spider symbol is different.
 * 3) His origin is accurate to the comics. The Birth of Venom scene at the Church is an extremely loyal adaptation to the comics, with great music.
 * 4) Sam Raimi had a great idea and vision for the character, being a dark mirror opposite image of Peter Parker. It was a very unique take on the character, made as much sense as Venom being an evil exaggerated monster Spider-Man, and it could have worked wonderfully if it were split into two parts as supposedly originally planned before Sony forced him in the final act for fan service or something.
 * 5) This version of Venom had some inspiration from the Ultimate Spider-Man Comics where he was a purple-ish color (or at least in promotion art and some figures) and where Eddie Brock was not a bulky guy (not to mention have the same name "Edward Brock Jr."), which would make some sense of why Topher Grace was cast for the role aside from fitting Raimi's vision, even if you don't like it.
 * 6) While the Venom voice in the film was bad, his video game counterparts (the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 versions, as well as Spider-Man: Friend or Foe) had a great voice that made up for it and honestly should have been the movie voice.
 * 7) Not to mention, in those games, he actually spoke without him unmasking.
 * 8) Venom was a much better and likable villain outside of the movie.